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What Road Would You Never Travel On Again & Why?


Interested to hear of peoples experiences on horror stretches of route while traveling.

Our worst experience was back in the 80's towing a Bushwacker camper trailer with a Subaru 4x4 station carriage traveling from Jindabyne NSW to Buchan VIC.

A reasonable amount of this road is OK except for beingness narrow, steep & winding in places.

The stretch on Black Mountain nearly Suggan Buggan was almost fatal for us though.

The surface is fine sandy gravel that is almost impossible to get traction on even in 4x4 mode.

Its narrow (one vehicle wide) & at that place are horrific drops over the side with no guard rail.

The scenery is fabled.

We were driving very advisedly when nosotros lost traction on an outside hairpin bend.

For a split second all we saw was fresh air & a i.000ft drop but luckily the slant on the bend slammed united states into the rock face on the opposite side.

All we had was a bent balderdash bar, by the time nosotros got to Wulgulmerang I had a splitting migraine headache & concluded up vomiting.

We volition NEVER travel on that road once more even with only a car.

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Not overly keen to travel on Gibb River Road or Purnululu NP once again. It's not the road itself, but too many using them equally a race rail. Also had a 4WD fly past u.s. over 100kph on the Oodnadatta Track throwing stones everywhere, kms down the road they were changing a tyre, then flew past again.

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My son & I rode from Buchan to jindabyne on road bikes, mine a 750 f2 honda, sons bike was a gpz750, took us all mean solar day, my speedo barbarous out of its socket & landed on the elevation of the fuel tank, gaffa tape fix! Was crook as a canis familiaris when we arrived in Jindabyne, that was 40 years ago, don,t know what the road is like now, did,t have time to look at the scenery! Bikes were loaded with all our camping gear, Only when yous are young........

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The original road to 1770, if it was all the same the aforementioned, every bit it was in the 80's I would never go up there. We went up information technology in 83', and information technology was a goat track especially for my Sigma. That Sigma with me had by this time, been partially on the Gunbarrel, the full length of the Tanami, and all the way to the tip, only nosotros just made information technology halfway to 1770, as it was the worst goat track, we had ever been on.

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I don't do corrugations, but ..

On one trip we were tired of the usual route beyond the Barkly through the 3 Ways then we decided to take the scenic route via Cape Crawford & then down to the Barkly Homestead, all bitumen, yea.� �A cute & historic drive too.

While at Cape C we took a day trip to Bing Bong in the GQ.� Nothing much to see at that place because of the fenced off commercial installation, but we constitute a bush rails winding thru the scrub that took us to a very large concrete boat ramp onto a cute stretch of water.� Clearly a commercial fishing facility with a couple of tin sheds nearby.� Great spot for luncheon after a pleasant drive through the scrub.

On the fashion dorsum on the primary road we came beyond a clay road turn off to King Ash Bay, a renowned fishing 'community'.� "Nosotros'll just take a quick look, it's only xx-30k", we said.

Bad decision.

From the outset the corrugations were about 12" from crest to crest and 6" deep. We should have known better.�

Even with the tyres permit down it was miserable driving. The GQ is never a soft ride, hey?� After well-nigh v km I noticed a rails through the bush beside the road, so I plant a spot where I could become on to it.� Buggar, not much better, simply the corrugations were only about 5" apart & 2' deep.��

No good for u.s., and then did a 180 & back to the lovely bitumen & on to Cape Crawford & a coldie.

In about 260,000km that'due south about the but dirt driving that the Patrol has done.� �Never once again.

�(actually, we have done clay driving into 80mile Beach, Uldara Lava Tubes, and a flake down on the Yorke Peninsular... but they were all well graded hard bitumen similar gravel)

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Nosotros adopt not to drive whatever road that we have ever driven earlier, if there is any other alternative.
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�Looks like you merely did a few main highways in Victoria. biggrin

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Victoria is non a common destination for united states (right at present we are at the northern finish of Lake Torrens in SA).
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Got sick and tired of driving the Primal Arnhem Hwy. Highway be buggered...goat track many years ago. Spent years travelling it for piece of work. Saw dozens of wrecked vehicles, millions of corrugations and bulldust that was unreal. Anyway.....all role of life's adventures.

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Looked forward to driving across the Nullabor ever since I was a kid. It got mentioned by so many people. And so many stories.
Most boring drive ever done. When we got to WA I actively looked for a fashion to send the caravan dorsum via train/road and so
information technology did not demand to towed back east.
Some people love it and spend weeks stopping at every nook and cranny, including the irresponsible brain expressionless idiots
who feel the need to take a selfie on the side of the road at every road signs. You automatically boring downward to return help only to realise
it is a waist of time.

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� You automatically ho-hum downwards to render aid only to realize
it is a waist of time.


�Reminds me of the time we spotted an elderly couple towing a Jayco slightly pulled over, taking up half of a lane on a major bitumen route in Nth Central Victoria.

I slowed down & pulled completely off the road just past them.

I walked back to them thinking that they had done a wheel begetting or had some other problem.

No cypher was wrong, they'd just ''pulled over'' for a cuppa.no

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New sections of autobahn in Germany which make the best Australian thruway look similar a goat track.

We were doing about 140kph at the time & a Porsche flew past u.s. like nosotros were standing still. My calculations at the time were about +280kph for the Porsche.

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Looked forward to driving across the Nullabor ever since I was a kid. It got mentioned by so many people. Then many stories.
Most boring drive ever washed. When we got to WA I actively looked for a fashion to send the caravan back via train/road so
information technology did non need to towed dorsum east.
Some people beloved it and spend weeks stopping at every nook and cranny, including the irresponsible brain dead idiots
who experience the need to take a selfie on the side of the route at every road signs. You automatically slow down to render assistance just to realise
it is a waist of fourth dimension.


�At that place must be 2 roads beyond the Nullabor because the road we took was incredibly interesting.� And so much to encounter and I know we missed some of information technology.� Nosotros can't await to do it again.

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deverall11 wrote:

Looked forward to driving across the Nullabor ever since I was a child. It got mentioned by and so many people. So many stories.
Near boring drive ever done. When we got to WA I actively looked for a way to transport the caravan back via railroad train/road then
it did not need to towed back east.
Some people dearest information technology and spend weeks stopping at every nook and cranny, including the irresponsible encephalon dead idiots
who feel the demand to take a selfie on the side of the road at every road signs. You automatically slow down to render help only to realise
information technology is a waist of fourth dimension.


�There must be two roads across the Nullabor because the route we took was incredibly interesting.� Then much to see and I know nosotros missed some of it.� Nosotros tin can't wait to do information technology again.


�Across the Nullarbor is really interesting, could spend weeks looking at things. Nosotros walked upwardly some of the escarpments, looked at some of the caves, beaches, cliffs. Love the changing scenery. One of the best roads in Australia.

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We drove along the Matilda Highway in Queensland about 20 years agone. The highway was bitumen and flat with no pot holes, but it was Total of dead kangaroos in various stages of decomposition. We drove along some sections several kilometres in length where we estimated there was at to the lowest degree 1 kangaroo every linear metre. In some areas they were piled high on the side of the road. It was the most sickening sight imaginable. Nosotros havent been back since then.

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If anyone is suffering from constipation I would recommend the drive down Brown Mount in southern NSW towing the van. If the example is severe so I recommend waiting for a chip of wet atmospheric condition and heavier traffic. Its non called Brown Mount for zero.

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We were young and on our honeymoon belatedly Apr 1970, nosotros had spent a night at Cooma, typical April weather condition, rain,� clouded, not much sunshine just we out were exploring.

We drove to the Mount Kosciusko, in those days there was a maintained unsealed route as were most roads downwardly in that surface area. We really don't remember how far nosotros walked to a viewing area, it was clear as when we started, cold but clear, then as re were returning to our (my) car a nearly horrible deject encompass come up over usa in, spookie because we could not run across more and so a vew feet in front of usa, common cold and damp, we were at times totally disorientated, we finally got to the car park and after some time located the car, a mud spatted light yellow colour that only blended into the surroundings, my new wife was a fleck upset by this fourth dimension, I was trying to be brave.

That is my worst flake of road and it's really got cipher to practise with the story except public motorist are now forbidden to bulldoze a motor vehicle in that area of the Kosciusko National Park but I really would beloved to that drive once again.

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Yep - Dark-brown Mountain is a steep, winding road, but it is no worse than many other roads in this area. Nosotros become downwards to the declension for Fish & Chips quite often, simply of course then we don't tow our caravan. But we regularly tow our van down and upwards the mountain with no trepidation. Employ THE GEARS on your car going down. Even without the caravan, I employ 2nd gear and I have to dab the brakes nearly 3 times over the whole trip down. Yes - I go slower than most of the traffic, and when at that place is a buildup of traffic behind me, I know where there are places I tin can pull over and allow the traffic pass. Even then, I don't HAVE to do this - it is only courtesy to other drivers. When I tow the caravan down, it is the same except I utilize outset gear. When you lot take your rime going down the mountain, you see a large multifariousness of vegetation changes - it is an enjoyable drive for united states of america.

The road surface is quite skilful these days, although it is prone to landslips, especially after heavy rains. Milk and timber trucks daily employ the road to become to Canberra. It is equally safe as they can make it. The but time I was worried nigh the descent was once when I rode my cycle down to the bottom and dorsum upwardly. On the manner down, we had to continue the brakes on all the fourth dimension to minimise the wetting of the rims (no brakes then). Coming back upwardly, it was the granny gear and just sit at that place and grind away at the hill. Driving or cycling, it is an enjoyable ride.

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You should endeavor skiing to Kosciuszko and the cloud comes in (it is called a whiteout). You lose all sense of direction and movement. Y'all think y'all are moving then you lean over onto one ski to plow and fall over - you lot were totally stationary but didn't know it. Similarly, y'all think you are stopped so you lot plant the ski pole into the snow and it moves abroad from you! Scary.

You tin can still ride a bicycle from Charlottes Pass (the finish of the road now) to Rawsons Pass (just below the summit). It is an easy ride, no steep climbs like Brown Mtn. I think I hold the record for the latest summit climb of Kosciuszko - 28 July 1967 I remember. Normally the summit is well covered past snowfall at that time, but I only had to traverse on snowdrift near Rawson Pass and from then on information technology was clear all the way to the top. Those were the days when I was young and stupid. At present, I am sometime and stupid...

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You should try skiing to Kosciuszko and the deject comes in (it is called a whiteout). You lose all sense of direction and movement. You retrieve you are moving and then y'all lean over onto one ski to turn and autumn over - you were totally stationary just didn't know it. Similarly, yous think you are stopped so you lot constitute the ski pole into the snow and it moves away from you! Scary.

You can still ride a bike from Charlottes Pass (the end of the road now) to Rawsons Pass (just beneath the top). It is an easy ride, no steep climbs similar Chocolate-brown Mtn. I call back I hold the record for the latest summit climb of Kosciuszko - 28 July 1967 I remember. Normally the height is well covered past snow at that fourth dimension, but I but had to traverse on snowdrift almost Rawson Pass and from then on it was clear all the way to the top. Those were the days when I was young and stupid. Now, I am sometime and stupid...


�Those were the days and yep I was young and ..., so professionally...... truck...., and now retired, onetime and stupid from the class of 1947.

Do you lot know how far from the summit you could drive?

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From retentivity, it is about nineteen km from Charlottes Pass carpark to Rawsons Pass, and it is less than 1 km walk from there to the peak. It is an easy walk/wheel, but rather deadening - the road/track is straight and the scenery changes very slowly. At that place is a shelter hut (Seamans Hut - built in memory of Laurie Seamans who died in the area in the 1930'due south) almost 3 km from Rawsons Laissez passer. At that place is a toilet block built at Rawsons Pass every bit well. No other facilities in that location. An easier admission to the height is via Thredbo - up the chairlift and walk forth an elevated steel grille walkway. I imagine that at that place will be quite a display of wildflowers out at present, but they will be well-nigh the cease of their season.

You tin even accept your bike up the chairlift then ride downwardly a trail back to the village or to Dead Horse gap and and so down the road back to Thredbo. It is a adept place to visit during Summertime as well as� Winter. And no - I don't become commissions from Thredbo or anyone else either... Y'all can hire a bicycle from a place in Thredbo every bit well.

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From memory, it is about 19 km from Charlottes Pass carpark to Rawsons Pass, and it is less than 1 km walk from there to the height. It is an easy walk/cycle, but rather boring - the road/track is straight and the scenery changes very slowly. There is a shelter hut (Seamans Hut - congenital in retention of Laurie Seamans who died in the expanse in the 1930's) well-nigh 3 km from Rawsons Laissez passer. There is a toilet cake congenital at Rawsons Pass too. No other facilities at that place. An easier admission to the pinnacle is via Thredbo - upward the chairlift and walk forth an elevated steel grille walkway. I imagine that there will be quite a display of wildflowers out at present, but they will be almost the end of their flavour.

�You can fifty-fifty have your wheel upward the chairlift and then ride downward a trail back to the village or to Dead Horse gap and and so down the road dorsum to Thredbo. Information technology is a good place to visit during Summer as well every bit� Winter. And no - I don't get commissions from Thredbo or anyone else either... You can hire a bike from a place in Thredbo as well.


�Howdy, I just been doing some extra reading that I had not planned almost Koscuszko NP.

1 thing is when did the spelling modify, my road atlas is 1997 model.

the road closed in 1977 to the motoring public.

Thank you for the incentive to await.

I found these 2 slides now digital photos of that bulldoze, perchance you will appreciate them. I recall I may of been a chip out of my depth that day. I remember this is why I nearly always have a compass with me now.

I could not imagine being up at that place on skis in a whiteout.

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Further to my original thread starting essay, the same stretch of road s of Jindabyne (Barry Way) turns to gravel eventually.
A little farther on is Jacob'southward Ladder, a series of hairpin bends every bit the route drops off the plateu downwards to the Snowy River.
A pretty hairy stretch of route.

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Don't remember the road merely I besides accept been to that carpark and did the short walk to the elevation of Mt. Koscuiszko dorsum in 1972. Lovely brilliant sunny solar day from my old photos. I wouldn't phone call it the worst route we've been on but back in the 1980's when the road from the highway to Ayres Stone (as it was back and then) was withal dirt we were the first vehicle, I believe, that got in after some wet atmospheric condition. The trip took us hours. On numerous occasions there was water over the road then we'd stop, throw a couple rocks into the water, walk around information technology a flake and hubby would decide - aye I call back we will be right to go through that then off we'd get slowly. A few times we saw a 4 bicycle bulldoze come the other way. Anyway we made it in, set up our little iii man tent in the so camping area and downwards came the rain once more. Seeing Ayres Stone with the h2o running off of it is something to behold. And aye, a dingo did come into the camping area, we chased information technology away merely others fed them. This was not long before the Azaria Chamberlain incident. Nosotros were in a Mazda station wagon. Our electric current motorhome does not similar corrugations. Many of the dirt roads back then are at present bitumen. Thank you.

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I don't think when the Kosciusko name changed, but I estimate nearly twenty years ago at least. The National Sparks and Wildfire Service spent a lot of money changing the proper name (and all the signs etc) and then that poor old Count Kosciuszko (who was the Polish Patriot who sponsored Strezleki to get exploring in Oz) could now sleep more comfortably in his grave. I gauge that the way things are going the name volition soon be changed to reflect the Aboriginal heritage of the area, although which tribe it will exist named later volition be a quandary since they used to just go to the tops during summer to eat the Bogong Moths. Maybe call information technology Mt Bogong - now that is a practiced idea - Damn - there is already a Mt Bogong elsewhere... Gee I am getting catty in my old age....

86GTS:� The Barry Manner currently is a shocker about Jacobs Ladder. Deep erosion gutters crossing the road, many of them hidden in the shadows of trees overhanging the road every bit well. The erosion gutters are roughly the diameter and half the depth of a large 4WD wheel and if you hot them at any speed, I shudder to think of the damage. In one case you cantankerous into Victoria, the route becomes comparitively a super highway, just the original alignment on the escarpment going down from the plateau near Gelantipity down into Suggan Buggan remains pretty much every bit I first saw it in 1966. It is a instance of very slow and steady, looking well ahead for signs of a vehicle coming the other way. At this moment, the Snowy River will be really roaring due to all the rain we have had of late. Information technology is a spectacular expanse to visit. If you lot think that road down to Suggan Buggan is bad, effort the route down to McKillops Bridge. Now, that road is narrow and winding, with no safety barriers on the shoulders either...

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I don't recollect when the Kosciusko name changed, but I judge almost 20 years ago at least. The National Sparks and Wildfire Service spent a lot of money changing the name (and all the signs etc) so that poor old Count Kosciuszko (who was the Polish Patriot who sponsored Strezleki to get exploring in Oz) could now sleep more comfortably in his grave.


�It'southward "Strzelecki', not "Strezleki". Give the man some respect. The to the lowest degree y'all can practice is get his name correct. I would hope that was the reason behind the correction, or maybe it was to undo the stupidity of misspelling the proper noun of our highest pinnacle. Idiots.

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